For founders and high achievers rethinking what money is for.
At 14, Seth Conger's boss at a golf course told him that if he was not sprinting, he was not working. That became his operating system for two decades.
He and Mike talk about external validation, building systems, the Sauna Squad, and a definition of wealth that balances money and time.
More from Money Stories: all episodes. Mike’s book Be Rich Now covers the same ground in depth.