For founders and high achievers rethinking what money is for.
Marshall Hayes grew up in rural Oregon learning about money from a ledger his dad kept on a yellow pad. He went from cleaning bathrooms to building and selling a multimillion dollar marketing agency, while burning out and losing his relationship.
He and Mike talk about how unprocessed pain can power ambition, future earning potential as a pillar of wealth, and measuring wealth in energy.
More from Money Stories: all episodes. Mike’s book Be Rich Now covers the same ground in depth.