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Money Stories · Episode 37

Marshall Hayes: The Founder Who Found Peace After the Fall

For founders and high achievers rethinking what money is for.

Mike Brown with Marshall Hayes, Entrepreneur and founder coach · Nov 21, 2025 · 62 min

About this episode

Marshall Hayes grew up in rural Oregon learning about money from a ledger his dad kept on a yellow pad. He went from cleaning bathrooms to building and selling a multimillion dollar marketing agency, while burning out and losing his relationship.

He and Mike talk about how unprocessed pain can power ambition, future earning potential as a pillar of wealth, and measuring wealth in energy.

More from Money Stories: all episodes. Mike’s book Be Rich Now covers the same ground in depth.